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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201703) (28-1)  

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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201703) (28-1)
 
BY: JOHN A. BYRNE ON MARCH 29, 2017

 

 

Ever since he dropped out of college with a 2.4 GPA, this 29-year-old young professional has been on an upward trajectory. He joined the military, working his way up to become a sergeant and a sniper who saw two combat deployments and led 12- to 15-person teams over six years. Then, he got himself into an Ivy League university and graduated with a 3.6 GPA transcript and an economics degree. After working for a couple of years as a consultant, he now hopes to go to business school to land a job at a non-profit consulting shop or to start his own form serving the social sector.

This 19-year-old undergraduate student from Nigeria is currenly studying at a private university in the U.S. She has done internships with a Big Four firm in her home country as well as one with a mid-tier accounting firm, and she is the founder of a website that helps African entrepreneurs. She plans to meet the April 3rd deadline for Harvard Business School’s 2+2 program for deferred admission to its MBA program.

Once president of his university’s 170-year-old debating society, this young professional has since spent nearly four years as a British civil servant, briefing and advising Cabinet-level ministers on policy issues in education, welfare and Europe. With a 740 GMAT and the equivalent of a 3.5 grade point average from a top five university in the U.K., he now wants an MBA to transition into a consulting role at one of the big three global firms.

What these three MBA candidates and more share in common is the desire to get through the door of a highly selective MBA program at one of the world’s very best business schools. Do they have a chance?

Sanford “Sandy” Kreisberg, founder of MBA admissions consulting firm HBSGuru.com, is back to analyze these and a few other profiles of actual MBA applicants who have shared their vital statistics, work backgrounds, and career goals with Poets&Quants.

As usual, Kreisberg handicaps each potential applicant’s odds of getting into a top-ranked business school. If you include your own stats and characteristics in the comments, we’ll pick a few more and have Kreisberg assess your chances in a follow-up feature to be published shortly. (Please add your age and be clear on the sequence of your jobs in relaying work experience. Make sure you let us know your current job.)

 

Mr. Yes Minister?

  • 740 GMAT
  • 3.5 GPA (2/1)
  • Undergraduate degree in theology from a top five U.K. university
  • Currently earning an MS in economics in a highly selective program in which only one in 50 people are admitted
  • Work experience includes three and one-half years as a British civil servant, working on a variety of policy and strategy issues including education, welfare and Europe; briefs and advises Cabinet government ministers; promoted a year early in job
  • Took a six-month ‘secondment’ at a healthcare charity
  • Interned during summer of undergraduate years at a Big Four consulting practice
  • Extracurricular involvement as the president of a 170-year-old debating society as a student; board member of two charities and the governor of a school
  • Goal: To transition to a consulting role at McKinsey, Bain or BCG
    British male

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 40%
Stanford: 30%
Wharton: 30% to 40%
Columbia: 50%
London: 50%+
INSEAD: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: Your profile presents the interesting question for a British civil servant: Can you get into Harvard, Stanford or Wharton if you haven’t gone to Oxford or Cambridge?

Your 2/1 is the equivalent of a 3.5, or silver-plus, not exactly gold. But your 740 GMAT score helps you a lot. You say you went to a top five university in the U.K. Of course, that could mean Cambridge or Oxford or 10 other places. Your part-time MS degree, however, is a distraction. You are a guy who should be throwing himself into his work . If you need more training, you should just be applying to business school. If you felt you needed a brushup course in economics or anything quanty, you should have just taken it a la carte.

Still, you are offering schools a powerful package here. You strike me as a future Tony Blair, who American business schools like very much, no matter what the Brits think, or future Teresa May.

American business schools like the Brits. They are anglophiliacs. Your extracurriculars show you to be a real leader. Your civil service career is very powerful. It sounds like you are doing a lot of important work in several different areas. You seem to have some real accomplishments behind you, and you clearly know the inside of the British government.

You should tell adcoms that you want the MBA to give you a set of skills you don’t already have so you can go back to the U.K. and be an impactful leader at the intersection of the public and private sectors. So tweak your goals to say you want to work in the public policy practice of MBB. You essentially want to continue what you are doing but get seconded to McKinsey forever.

London and INSEAD are easy for you. You should walk into those schools with your background and your stats. With the right execution, I say your odds at Harvard are 40%. Your odds at Stanford are also strong. I’d say 30%, just because the class size is smaller than HBS.

Wharton could very well scratch their head on your profile. Columbia has more of a public policy orientation, in part because the university has a famous public policy school—and it’s New York versus Philadelphia. Columbia would really like you, especially if you play up the idea of being in New York near the United Nations and all that blah, blah, blah. Wharton would probably interview you and then decide what to do. So if you want to go to Wharton, you better convince them you really want to go because they will think you’re headed to Harvard or Stanford.

Bottom line: It’s Yes Minister!

 

Ms. Nigeria 2+2

  • 710 GMAT
  • 3.42 GPA
  • Currently in an undergraduate program at a private university in the U.S.
  • Work experience includes an internship with a Big Four firm in Nigeria as well as a mid-tier CPA firm; will move back to Nigeria in May to begin work at McKinsey & Co.
  • Extracurricular involvement on the executive board of an organization teaching business across cutlures, a pioneer of the website She’s The First, a well-known oorganization that empowers women from disadvantaged backgrounds; has also held workshops in Africa for a bridge program; founder of a website that helps African entrepreneurs (plans to work on this website after graduating from college)
  • “What should I write about in my essays?”
  • 19-year-old Nigerian woman

Odds of Success:

Harvard 2+2: 30% to 40%

Sandy’s Analysis: You’re an exciting candidate. But 2+2 stats are nosebleed stats and yours are a little low. Of course, some candidates have to be below the averages and I can very easily see you as one of them. A female from Nigeria who is not a U.S. citizen is obvioulsy African but not an African-American. So you are not legally an under-representd minority by admission standards. That doesn’t mean you aren’t someone that business schools would be very interested in. It may mean, however, that you won’t be judged with other under-represented minorities.

Still, a lot of the best business schools have been targeting the African countries in recent years, partly because they envision massive economic growth from the region over the next 10 or 20 years. Stanford is especailly ga-ga over Africa. The fact that you are from Nigeria and going back there and into a job with McKinsey is a big plus.

You asked what you should write in your essays. In your case, I would start the essay by saying your goals are to be an impactful leader in Nigeria, particularly a leader and role model for Nigerian women. Let me tell you about some experiences that have influenced this goal. You could then write about things that the mentors you’ve had or what you’ve learned from your extras. That gives you a great outline to present your strong points. I bet you have powerful stories.

If you’re a 2+2 applicant, it’s very helpful to say, if you can, why the flexibility of the 2+2 program is an advantage to you. You have to make a case like that. Dee Leopold (director of the 2+2 program) has told Poets&Quants she is looking for that in the applications (see TK.)

So if you can say the program offers you the flexibility of leaving McKinsey after two years and/or working on your websiteor working with some kind of McKinsey initiative.

Your odds depend on execution. The post you sent us was a little sketchy and unclear. You need to execute very clearly. If you can convince Dee Leopold that you are going to be a big hit in Africa, your chances are pretty good.

The question is, who is in the bottom half of the 2+2 class, staistics-wise? If some white guy from Bain had a 3.4 GPA with a 710 GMAT and asked what are my chances? I would say those stats are too low for 2+2. And he might say, ‘Well, they have to take someone below the average.’ And I would tell him, ‘Yeah, they would take a 19-year-old woman from Nigeria over you! That’s who they take with those stats.’

I also would certainly apply to Stanford for deferred admission, if you are going to apply to HBS 2+2. There’s not a lot of extra work to apply to two schools versus one. And Stanford’s stated mission to increase the number of Africans in its MBA program swings the odds slightly in your favor.

And if you don’t get into 2+2, you should be able to get into Harvard later, by the way, if your story unfolds the way I imagine it will: You’ll go work for McKinsey in Nigeria, do your website, and then apply after two to three years of work. You would still have a good shot at HBS.

But you have to execute serviceably. If Harvard likes what they see, they will meet you half way., but you have to get to that half way point with your application.

 

Mr. Ivy League Sergeant

  • 730 GMAT
  • 2.4 GPA
  • College dropout
  • 3.6 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in economics from an Ivy League school
  • Work experience includes six years, including two combat deployments, in the U.S. military; rose to sergeant and a sniper who commanded 12- to 15-person teams; then a return to college and currently in his second year of consulting on social sector and finance sector projects at a second-tier firm (think Oliver Wyman/LEK Consulting)
  • Extracurricular involvement includes two to three hours a week as a volunteer helping military candidates apply to college; spent a summer after graduation working with children at a nonprofit in India
  • “I’d like some insight into where I stand given my poor GPA and my military background”
  • Goal: To transition into or to start a non-profit consulting firm
  • 29-year-old white male

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 30% to 40%
Columbia: 40%
Wharton: 40%
Northwestern: 40%+
Chicago: 40%+

Sandy’s Analysis: You are more solid than you think, unless you are being a bit humble here.

The note you wrote us is terse, thorough and artful. You’ve got the goods. I like you. Your profle is clear and short, and it has all the information you need, plus a little color. In case other people are wondering what it takes to get reviewed here, it takes that.

You seem worried about that low GPA before you dropped out and your military background. I wouldn’t worry about that. The poor GPA was a long time ago, eight years ago in fact, and it has been erased by the 3.6 in your second college and the 730 GMAT. The first target you hit was the 3.6 at an Ivy. The second target this sniper hit was a 730. I call that a bullseye.

Your military background, meantime, is not a complication in your background. It is a well established channel to an elite business school. What makes this a bit different is that you are not applying from the military but from a consulting firm. It’s a perfect post-military gig. Frankly, I think that makes you a stronger candidate, especially because you got into an Ivy League school after the military and walked out with a 3.6 on your transcript.

What makes you a more interesting candidate is that you went to college, dropped out, enlisted in the military where you spent six years, became a sergeant and a sniper and a leader, then returned not to any college but an Ivy League university before landing a solid job at a consulting firm.

Your career goal is a little too cute by half. You do have a track record there, but your goal in the larger sense is consulting. That’s what you have been doing the past two years. That is what business schools like. You will get a consulting job. You are the meat and potatoes of a consulting firm. Guys like you are the backbone of the consulting industry in the U.S.

If I was an admissions officer, I’m going to take the 730 and the six-year miliary career. What does it take to become a sergeant? You enlisted as a grunt and got promoted to sergeant. I don’t see that very often in military candidates. Most of my military applicants are ROTC. I see that as an advantage.

For Harvard, it’s the same song and dance. HBS is often easier than Wharton or Columbia because Harvard is more likely to forgive your earlier lower GPA. If you get your story right, you look really good at Harvard but you need one other thing: A good recommendation. You should get a rec from one of your consultng bosses.

When it comes to a second recommendation, the question is who will add more value? Don’t ask a professor to write a rec for you. They aren’t going to say much more than you were a good student. And in your case, you don’t want a rec from someone at the nonprofit you’re helping out because you’re a grunt there, not a leader.

If you have worked closely with a client, a strong rec from a client can be very powerful.

Sometimes a second rec from your employer can do the trick, especially if one reinforces the other and still adds a positive and valuable story about you. In this case, you would get one rec from your direct supervisor and another from his or her supervisor. That can be a powerful combination for a candidate.That’s true at the other schools you are targeting for your MBA.

It looks like you picked your shots. Ivy League sergeant you are locked and loaded. Just pull the trigger.

 

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2017/03/29/handicapping-elite-mba-odds-10/

 

 

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