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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201603)(17-2)  

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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201603)(17-2)

 

 

BY: SANDY KREISBERG & JOHN A. BYRNE ON MARCH 08, 2016

 

 

Mr. Military Man

  • Mr. Army MBB
  • 740 GMAT
  • Top 30% GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in strategy from an Army university in Europe
  • Top 16% GPA
  • Master’s degree in international business from a Top 30 business school in Europe
  • Work experience includes one and one-half years in the military, responsible for training the logistics company’s leadership and mission control, including troops going into Somalia and Afghanistan; one year for as a market researcher for a boutique consulting firm specializing in finding growth potential in their existing operations; also simultaneously worked for a local consumer goods startup company pro bono CEO, overseeing the daily operations of the factory, organized relationships and deals with the subcontractors, and finally after master’s have been working for an M/B/B consulting firm as a business analyst/senior business analyst for 18 months
  • Extracurricular involvement as president of the high school government, three and one-half years in Lion’s Club with a year as vice president, founder and president of the university’s management consulting club
  • Fluent in four languages
  • Successfully finished seven courses in Coursera, all in business analytics and project management
  • Short-term goal: To brush up skills in order to have “a better chance at attaining a great spot at a major top tech firm in the U.S. (think Google, Facebook, Twitter)”
  • Long-term goal: To co-found a startup
  • “My supervisor at the M/B/B has said he will give me stellar recommendations. I am considered to be top 10% in my company”
  • White European male, 28-year-old at matriculation, married for four years

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 30% to 40%
Stanford: 10% to 20%
Wharton: 40%
Dartmouth: 40%
Columbia: 50%
Duke: 50%+
Darden: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: Hmmmmm, deeply impressive on many counts BUT:

“Short-term I am interested in brushing up on my skills in order to have a better chance at attaining a great spot at a major top tech firm in the US (think Google, Facebook, twitter etc.).”

OK, have other people have told you to apply for those jobs now?  Because given your extensive business background, your pre-existing MBA, your M/B/B consulting experiences, and your seven Coursera courses, well, what are you waiting for?

Let me add that your goal of getting a top “U.S.” tech job is potentially a dangerous thing to say since all those firms have major offices in Europe and schools may look at your NBA effort not as a career switch, which they are open to, but a “Come to America” plan, which they are not (well usually). Especially since your stated need for a U.S. MBA, –“brushing up on my skills”–is also not the preferred way of saying why you need a second MBA. That way is to make the point that a Euro MBA was academic and a U.S. B-school education is more interactive and leadership based, blah, blah.

No one believes that all that much but it at least shows that you have gone to the trouble to find out the acceptable B.S.

And that B.S. is possibly outcome-determinative versus your first stab at this, viz. “brushing up your skills.” I am deeply impressed, for real, with the depth of your idiomatic English, but in this case, your English language skills have betrayed you into actually telling the truth.

OK, so no “brushing up” and no making a point about working for the “U.S.” office of tech giant.

You still got problems given the depth of your experience, prior MBA and post-MBA courses.

But I’d say that you want to be an impactful leader in Europe, where your U.S. education could shake-up the more staid practices of Euro consultancies, companies, and affiliates. I don’t know if the Facebook Geneva office is uptight or not, but neither do U.S. adcoms (and check to see if there IS a Facebook office in Geneva). But most importantly, make the general point that is just one example of how your U.S. education will help cross-pollinate Euro-business practices. Blah, blah. Have your M/B/B reco writers confirm that story.

“Long-term, I would be very interested in co-founding a great startup where I can offer my skills and help shape them to become something massive.” Nah, anyone can do that. You want to found a consulting firm that is great by dint of its ability to help Euro businesses get hip to best global practices which are embedded in your deep Euro and U.S. experiences.

It might be OK to say you want to work in the USA after your MBA, at a company which will offer you experience that prepares you for the above. Just don’t overdo the American thing and sound like you really want to live here permanently.

This sounds like the wrong kind of diversity for Stanford. They don’t need any U.S.-lovers who also like real business. Your core story, correctly told, might work at your other target schools, if they don’t smell something odd. If you squint, you are a high-performing Army vet who works for M/B/B and seems to have an odd hobby of taking business courses both for credit and at Coursera. Try to present yourself that way.

 

Mr. 2+2

  • 750 GMAT
  • 3.75 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in finance from a Top 20 public in the South
  • Work experience includes internships at mid-market elite boutique investment bank, working on valuations, an aerospace company in operations, and an elite engineering university in aerospace research
  • Goal: To work in a hedge fund or asset management firm, using the experience to eventually create his own investment fund
  • “Tell me what my chances are of getting into HBS 2+2, GBS 2+2, and Yale Silver Scholars (3+2)”

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 20%
Stanford: 10%
Yale: 20%

Sandy’s Analysis: Well, I like you and one may wonder what might be missing from a guy with a 750 GMAT and 3.75 GPA from an okay public college.?Unfortunately, 2+2 programs are really difficult, especially for finance (white males, I assume?).

What is missing here is some glitter. All your extras are career oriented. Your jobs are with silver not gold firms, and your goals are sorta get rich, or seem that way.

The actual strong part of this story is “aerospace company doing operations, and elite engineering university doing aerospace research.”

I would try to build that up more as both influences and goals when you apply to these business schools.

I don’t think you are getting into Stanford. You are not their kind of future rich kid–They prefer future rich kids to be born rich or learn quicker how to manipulate the system– and go to Ivy schools and work at tip-top finance firms. Given that no save-the-world BS attached here as well, well, there’s just nothing driving you in.

HBS story could be similar but the door at Harvard is wider because every incoming class is more than twice the size than at Stanford. You may get in to HBS in two to four years as a regular admit.

I don’t really have a feeling about Yale’s School of Management. My advice would be to apply to H and S, get dinged, and join the Ding+Admit club in two to four years.

 

 

Mr. Private Equity Bound

  • 770 GMAT (50Q, 45V)
  • 2.5 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in engineering from the top school in an Eastern European country
  • Master’s degree in quant heavy subject from a global Top five program (Think MIT or Stanford), finishing first in class three years ago
  • Work experience includes three years at a global bank, having worked in four countries; three years in strategy consulting with a Top Five firm, and three years of entrepreneurship in a still profitable engineering services firm
  • Extracurricular involvement with several community leadership roles in different countries over the years, and some volunteer coaching / mentoring in a number of NGOs.
  • Goal: To transition into the private equity ecosystem in San Francisco
  • 35-year-old Eastern European male

Odds of Success:

Stanford: 10% to 20%
MIT (MSMS): 30%
Berkeley: 30%+

Sandy’s Analysis: You are going to be 38 by the time you attempt to transition to PE–that is the age when most guys in PE are getting married for the third time and thinking about retirement and wife No. four.

You may be able to leverage your global banking experience (if it was IB type work) and engineering background and join a lean-and-mean PE firm right now. I would suggest trying to make that happen, but it will not happen by sumbitting resumes. You need to network and hustle.

As to your business school ambitions, MIT may wonder why you need the degree. As do I, except as a Hail Mary pass to find the next thing. Haas may be willing to buy the 770 and give you a base to schmooze for two years.

 

 

Mr. Peace Corps

  • 168Q, 165V, 5A GRE
  • 3.89 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in finance from honors business program at Indiana University
  • Work experience includes two years as a Peace Corps volunteer in the Balkans, working on local economic development, and
    three years prior at Barclays Bank in New York in equity research, with a promotion from analyst to assistance vice president; worked on team ranked high by Institutional Investor

  • Extracurricular involvement helping to manage the student-run investment portfolio; selected by alumni board as stock pick winner; leadership roles in business fraternity, and supplemental instructor for introductory econ
  • Goal: To launch a successful career in development, making a positive impact on the world.
  • “I’m interested in impacting social change by empowering private market actors. Looking to leverage my skill set in financial analysis and interest in the global financial and economic markets with passion for helping others. Dream job would be to work for the International
  • Financial Corporation or other multinational organization (USAID, World Bank), or a large foundation (Gates Foundation)”

  • White American male (age 28 at matriculation)

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 20%
Stanford: 10%
Wharton: 20% to 30%
UCLA: 30%+
NYU: 30%+
Duke: 30%+
Georgetown: 30% to 40%

Sandy’s Analysis: Real solid, all around. The only issue might be how long you have spent working for the Devil. That is OK for a while (two years) but you might be four years in by the time you matriculate.

It would help if your commitment to development had some continuity beyond the Peace Corps. There is a real type of applicant: Peace Corps, Job 2, and then B-school.

The issue is whether you can present as gold or a silver version of that. Your three or four years at Barclays in Equity Research with no other do-gooder jive for the past three years could be read as silver.

Still, HBS takes kids like you (discounting goals and just responding to solid stats and jobs). Sometimes, so does Wharton. This ain’t smelling like Stanford. It you take out the Peace Corps, you got not much but a smart white guy in finance with a silver not gold job.

Sorry for the tough love, but that is way I read it. Kids can get jobs with IFC pre-B school, and those kids are more likely to tell a compelling version of this story.

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/03/08/handicapping-elite-mba-odds-17/ 

 

 

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