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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201211) (24-3)  

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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201211) (24-3)

 


 BY: JOHN A. BYRNE ON NOVEMBER 25, 2016

 

 

After working for Oppenheimer & Co. in private equity, this 29-year-old male professional raised $5 million to start up a small oil company that had a $12 million valuation in just 16 months. Besides a 690 GMAT and a 3.95 grade point average, he has an unusual distinction on his resume: he is a whistleblower who helped the SEC catch a crook.

This Aussie male professional has done a little bit of everything, from working for a Silicon Valley start-up to an Asian-focused hedge fund. He’s scored more than 750 on GMAT practice tests and has a 3.7 GPA from a highly ranked Australian business school. Now, he wants an MBA to transition into a venture capital firm in the U.S.

He’s a 29-year-old U.S. Air Force Captain who, in his own words, “plans missions, operates weapons, and tells the pilot what to do.” With a 680 GMAT and a 3.5 GPA in finance from the University of Memphis, he’s hoping an MBA degree will allow him to move into a consulting job in civilian life. His ultimate ambition: To “develop into a future CEO.”

What these applicants share in common is the goal to get into one of the world’s best business schools. Do they have the raw stats and experience to get in? Or will they get dinged by their dream schools?

Sanford “Sandy” Kreisberg, founder of MBA admissions consulting firm HBSGuru.com, is back again to analyze these and a few other profiles of actual MBA applicants who have shared their vital statistics with Poets&Quants.

As usual, Kreisberg handicaps each potential applicant’s odds of getting into a top-ranked business school. There’s also a video portion of the series (above) featuring Kreisberg live evaluating the prospects of one of our candidates: our gung-ho Air Force Captain who wants to become a future chief executive officer.

If you include your own stats and characteristics in the comments, we’ll pick a few more and have Kreisberg assess your chances in a follow-up feature to be published shortly. (Please add your age and be clear on the sequence of your jobs in relaying work experience. Make sure you let us know your current job.)

Sandy’s candid analysis:

Mr. Air Force Captain

 

  • 680 GMAT
  • 3.5 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in finance from the University of Memphis
  • 3.5 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in economics from Penn State’s online program
  • Work experience as a combat systems officer in the U.S. Air Force
  • “I plan missions, operate weapons, and tell the pilot what to do. CSO is a rated slot (pilots, CSOs, RPAs and ABMs are all rated) and like all rated slots, they are highly competitive. I was an ROTC cadet.”
  • Extracurricular involvement in community service, including 150 hours during my Air Force career and more than 33 hours in college
  • “I am an extremely ambitious, business-minded person. I want to be a consultant so I can develop into a future CEO.”
  • 29-year-old Air Force Captain in the Air Force

Target Schools:

Harvard: 20% to 30%
Stanford: 15% to 20%
Chicago: 40%
Columbia: 40%
Berkeley: 50%+
UCLA: 50%+
Yale: 20% to 30%

Sandy’s Analysis:  I’ve said this before about the military and it’s important to underscore: The people who read admission folders are not veterans as a rule. They don’t have an understanding of what people do in the Armed Services. They have a very hard time determining whether you have a Gold, Silver or Bronze military career. They do understand that a military pilot is an elite thing. They understand that being a Navy Seal is an elite thing. They probably understand that being an Army Ranger is an elite thing.

If you are in the military, it’s very important that you give them a flavor of your career in terms they can understand. Unfortunately, what happens with military applicants is that your GPA and GMAT wind up counting a lot because those are easy elements for  admissions people to  understand.

What rank should you have? Most people who apply to business schools are captains. I think it is hard to get a rank higher than that within the typical five-year stint that people apply from. I don’t see many Colonels apply to business school. This guy is going to be a long shot at Harvard and Stanford with a 680 GMAT and a 3.5 GPA. There is nothing driving him in?in terms of gender, or an overcoming adversity story. Harvard and Stanford would just look for someone with higher stats.  The average GPA and GMAT scores of military admits to Harvard and Stanford would be an interesting set of numbers but I think it is higher than 3.5/680.

The only story that would overcome that would be a personal adversity narrative. He also comes across as a little too gung-ho, believe it or not. He says, ‘I am an extremely ambitious, business-minded person.’ You might think, ‘What’s wrong with that?’ Oddly, schools don’t like to hear that as directly as he puts it.

And they don’t want to hear that you want to be a consultant so you can be a future CEO. They want to hear that you want to be a consultant so that you can help companies grow and provide jobs and new opportunities.  Sure, that is what he meant, or maybe meant, but if the full application and touch and feel of the thing is too directly ambitious like that, it could be trouble.  Once you get outside of H+S, and if this application gets hip to the standard application BS, well, what you got is a pretty solid guy whom you’d like to have on your team in most situations. That should be enough at other schools he is interested in.

 

Mr. Aussie

 

  • 750+ GMAT (practice tests)
  • 3.7 GPA (top 10% of cohort)
  • Undergraduate degree in finance and accounting from a highly ranked Australian business school with an exchange to a Top 5 U.S. business school
  • Elite athlete scholarship to university
  • Work experience includes internships at a mid-market investment bank in M&A, a bulge bracket investment bank, and a hedge fund; then six months at an bulge bracket investment bank, one year at an Asian-focused hedge fund, and two years at a tech start-up in Silicon Valley
  • Extracurricular involvement as a black belt in martial arts; frequent contributor to university magazines as an interviewer of high profile business people within the Asian market; represented Australia in athletics at high school; established a charity focused on tutoring indigenous Australians with the intention of securing more Indigenous Australians the opportunity to study at the tertiary institutions
  • Goal: To work for a U.S. venture capital firm or to return to hedge fund work within the U.S. market
  • Single Aussie male

Target Schools:

Harvard: 30% to 40%
Stanford: 20% to 30%
Wharton: 50%
Columbia: 50%
NYU: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis:  Well, get that “750+” GMAT if you can, the “+” doesn’t count all that much. Just try getting something near 730 if you want to go to Stanford because one issue we have with you is lack of unbroken blue chip experience –although you are close. We all love Aussies and a good deal of this will turn on the reputation of your school in U.S. business school circles.

You say, “Top ranked Australian Business School in Finance/Accounting, with exchange to top 5 undergrad U.S. business program,” which could mean top ranked Australian Finance School, which may not mean much, or top ranked school in Australia.  I am no expert, but one respected ranking of Aussie U’s (THE Times Higher Education World University Rankings) is below:

1. University of Melbourne
2. Australian National University
3. University of Queensland
4. University of Sydney
5. Monash University
6. University of New South Wales
7. University of Western Australia
8. University of Adelaide
9. The University of Newcastle
10. Macquarie University

http://www.australianuniversities.com.au/rankings/

Are we talking one of them?  Apparently given your internships. The easy answer, and my guess is, you know this, how many kids has your school sent to top U.S. business schools.

Moving right along, we got this quicksilver to play with, “6 months full time at Bulge Bracket investment bank followed by 1 year at an Asian-focused hedge fund & then 2 years at a technology start-up in Silicon Valley.”  A good deal of the impact of that will turn on how well known the hedge fund is and what kind of facts you can provide about the start-up.

Let me state the obvious: There are hedge funds and there are hedge funds, and these days, everyone seems to have a hedge fund or one on his resume. So the pedigree of your hedge fund counts a bit. Make sure in your application to underscore its AUM, historical investment record, number of partners, any metrics which can give it solidity. I realize that is not always easy because some data is private.

What is true about hedge funds goes double for start-ups. I mean, as noted prior, any moron can start a company, and many have. You seem like a solid, well-credentialed dude, but make it clear. To U.S. adcom eyes, there are some possible soft spots here, including leaving a bulge bracket IB after only 6 months to join a hedge fund. Believe me, that is something anyone at an IB would love to do but it is very rare to do that in the U.S./Wall Street environment where a typical “jail sentence”  is two years IB before you get to do two years in an HF.

As to your extracurrics:

  • Black belt in martial arts–I like, but schools don’t care.
  • Regular contributor to university magazines interviewing high profile business people within the Asian market–I like, but schools mostly don’t care.
  • Represented Australia in Athletics at High School, Elite Athlete scholarship to University–hmmmmm, I like, and some jock sniffing adcom might get a nice whiff, as might some literary adcom might like the magazine stuff.
  • Established a charity focused on tutoring indigenous Australians with the intention of securing more Indigenous Australians the opportunity to study at tertiary institutions– Bingo. Everyone loves indigenous peoples, so your Hail Mary chance of getting into Stanford depends on how much you can work up  this angle.

Bottom line: There is lots to like here but also lots of question marks. I think H and S are going to be hard because there are dudes sorta like you with rock solid credentials, especially in terms of gold-plated schooling, as well as IB and HF experience. I could be wrong, a good deal depends on the specifics.  If you could “normalize up” the schooling and first two jobs so that you appear to be an elite dude with a proxy Wall St IB/HF career who is NOW working for a real start-up and HEARTS indigenous people . . . . . . . . . . well, that works, but it is a big ‘if.”

Goals: U.S. venture capital or return to hedge fund work within the U.S. market.

HUH?????
Ba’day Mate!!!

Saying that ain’t doing you any good and throws you deeper in the ultra- competitive pool of absolute gold-plated U.S. Ivy/IB/PE kids. You are bleaching out any possible color to your story. What makes you the least bit interesting is your Aussie background, your work with indigenous peoples, and your move from a HF to a start-up. By stating goals as you do, you are negating every element of that possibly interesting story.You need to concoct some wall-banging story about working with Asian funds to support start-ups in the region, and throw in the particulars of your own start-up experiences. If you can wind up employing indigenous peoples more the better. I’m not fully spinning this out, but I COULD, I hope you get the idea.

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/11/25/handicapping-elite-mba-odds-6/ 

 

 

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