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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201610)(23-1)  

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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201610)(23-1)

 


 BY: JOHN A. BYRNE ON OCTOBER 24, 2016

 

 

She’s a 25-year-old software engineer at a leading tech firm in Silicon Valley. with a 730 GMAT and a 3.7 GPA from a Canadian university, she hopes to go to business school as a stepping stone toward a long-term goal of landing a leadership role in a top tech firm.

He currently heads up strategy at a division of the global ad agency Publicis in India. With a 710 GMAT and a 3.0 grade point average on his undergrad degree from the National Institute of Technology in India, he’s hoping to use an MBA to transition into consulting.

The youngest director at a Fortune 100 hospital management company, this 28-year-old woman currently manages accounts totally more than $1 billion. At university, she was a four-year varsity basketball player while a pre-med major and is also a licensed crossfit coach. With a 740 GMAT and a 3.2 GPA, she wants to transition into management consulting.

All three of these candidates and several more want to get through the door of a highly selective MBA program at one of the world’s very best business schools. Do they have a chance?

Sanford “Sandy” Kreisberg, founder of MBA admissions consulting firm HBSGuru.com, is back again to analyze these and a few other profiles of actual MBA applicants who have shared their vital statistics, work backgrounds and career goals withPoets&Quants.

As usual, Kreisberg handicaps each potential applicant’s odds of getting into a top-ranked business school. If you include your own stats and characteristics in the comments, we’ll pick a few more and have Kreisberg assess your chances in a follow-up feature to be published shortly. (Please add your age and be clear on the sequence of your jobs in relaying work experience. Make sure you let us know your current job.)

 

Ms. Pre-Med

  •  750 GMAT (48Q/44V)
  •  3.18 GPA
  •  Undergraduate degree in pre-med and public health from Johns Hopkins University
  •  “In medical circles people tend to know about the grade deflation at Hopkins, particularly among pre-med students. Does this need to be explained in B-School apps?”
  •  3.8 GPA (Master’s)
  •  Master’s degree in public health from Emory University
  •  Work experience includes one year in healthcare financial consulting with a small private firm and four years with a Fortune 100 hospital management company (think HCA), 1.5 years in analytics and strategic pricing, 2.5 years in contract negotiation
  •  Promoted from analyst to manager to director over four years, currently company’s youngest director, managing accounts totaling over a billion dollars
  •  Extracurricular involvement as a varsity basketball player for four years and a licensed crossfit coach
  •  Strong recommendations letters expected
  •  Goal: To transition into management consulting at MBB and apply that skill set toward developing new strategies around accountable care models and health insurance reimbursement for new and growing healthcare companies
  •  28-year-old white female

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 25% to 30%
Stanford: 15% to 20%
Northwestern: 40% to 50%
Dartmouth: 40% to 50%
Yale: 40% to 50%

Sandy’s Analysis: You are a tight case, a pre-med undergrad and into healthcare. But I don’t like how you present yourself. When you say you want to develop “new strategies around accountable care models” I read that as code for screwing patients. Unless I am misunderstanding this, I think you have drunk the bad Kool-Aid. You think business schools want hospitals to be more efficient in the bad way. What business schools care about is health care access. Adcoms are liberal. Stanford doesn’t want to make hospitals get more bang for the buck by kicking out patients a day before they should. They are interested in that magic term: access. You ahve to get in that mindset. You should present yourself as someone who has seen the dark side of medical management and now wants to increase access and equity to health care. Those are important works in your shtick.

You will need to explain your low GPA at Johns Hopkins. What you have to do is include your class standing. If you go to Johns Hopkins for pre-med courses, they try to filter out future doctors. They make you take those famous courses like organic chemistry and they grade you on a curve. If you are in Johns Hopkins may give an A to only the top 10% of the class, all of whom are serious premed students. It’s not like half the class are slackers.

Explain your way out of the 3.18. Without that, your odds would be pretty high at just about any business school, though your 740 GMAT does a lot of talking. Your four years playing varsity basketball is pretty impressive, and I like the fact that you are a licensed crossfit coach. You could start a club for your MBA study group!

Assuming you get your act right, I’m not sure Stanford or Harvard will swallow the 3.18. Stanford’s attitude will be we will find someone like you but who figured out the right healthcare baloney to feed us. Still, you are a good reach at HBS, particularly if you have good recommendations. Kellogg is great for you and so is Yale. Wharton could accept you on your high GMAT score alone.

With your MBA in hand, you will walk into McKinsey, Bain or BCG. In fact, the outside-the-box advice for you is don’t go to business school. You don’t need no stinkin’ MBA. You can get a job at MBB right now. So your dreams can come true, no matter what you do.

 

Mr. Indian Advertising Agency Guy

  •  710 GMAT
  • 3.0 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree from the National Institute of Technology in India
  • 3.05 GPA (Master’s)
  • Master’s degree in management communications from MICA India, Asia’s leading communication school
  • Work experience includes more than three years as a brand and communication strategist at global advertising agency Publicis; currently heads up strategy at a division of Publicis India
  • “Campaigns and brands that I have worked on have won Cannes Lions and I have very strong career progression. Currently, am advising CMOs and Brand heads on communication strategy and helping them craft branding strategies. However, I find this role limited and want to move to a more holistic consulting role.
  • Extracurricular involvement as the founder of the quizzing society at PG college, was main quizmaster for college’s quiz fest, some radio jockeying, theater work in university, contributor to various travel blogs, won some robotics and debate competitions in college
  • Goal: To transition into consulting
  • Indian male

Odds of Success:

Duke: 30% to 40%
Northwestern: 30% to 40%
Indiana: 50%
Emory: 50%
Michigan: 40% to 50%
Washington: 50%

Sandy’s Analysis: I’m going to call you silver but not gold. Every part of your profile is not gold: Your GMAT is low for Harvard, Stanford and Wharton. It’s low for Indian applicants. The National Institute of Technology school also lacks the prestige of an IIT in India. So you have a 3.0 at a second-tier school.

No offense to our communication community but it is not considered rocket science by admission committees at business schools. The fact you are at Publicis, a global giant, is a plus. You seem to be doing advertising rather than internal consulting for the company. I’m not sure what experience business schools prefer. I am impressed that several of your brands have won the Cannes Lions awards and your advertising buddies are probably impressed. But I think you should reorient your application toward big data and statistics rather than coming up with a great advertising logo or mascot. Creative types are often dealt with suspicion at business schools for better or worse.

The only fleck of gold on your resume is working for a global advertising company. If you have the right job there, like business development or strategy, it would be ideal. Adcoms like that.

You find working with CMOs and brand heads on branding strategies limiting? That is about as interesting as any business school applicant does.

I think you are an attractive applicant and can add a lot of a business school class. If you got dinged at HBS or Wharton, I wouldn’t find that as a surprise.

Kellogg is known as the creative school and they might go for you. Duke might go for you. You become a competent applicant at Indiana, Ross and Washington. At those places, your stats are in line.

A member of the admissions committee at Indiana or Ross might say you are smart enough. You are not a great student but have been successful at Publicis. That checks one of the boxes. Can you sit still, eat crap and spit it back. You weren’t able to do that too well in college, but you have been able to do that at Publicis. So you pass the mature-adult-who-can-suffer-in-silence test which is a serious one.

Quizzing is very big in India. But American adcoms kind of scratch their heads about it. I am not sure quizzing is a great thing to say or to brag about on an appliation to an American business school. My sense is that people who talk about it and found quizzing clubs are viewed as being a bad version of weird and nerdy. I am exaggerating for effect here but would like our Indian readers to respond to that.

 

Ms. Silicon Valley

  • 730 GMAT (49Q/39V) (on third try)
  • 3.7 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in engineering from a Canadian university best known for engineering
  • Work experience includes two years with a top tech Silicon Valley company with one promotion; also six four-month-long internships in major tech companies, the last two of which resulted in full-time job offers
  • Extracurricular involvement as the organizer for a local chapter of a “Women In Tech” empowering program and a female tech maker’s conference; mentor to female students transitioning into STEM courses during university years
  • Goal: To gain a leadership role in a leading tech company or to lead her own tech startup
  • 25-year-old female software engineer, immigrated from Southeast Asia and now a Canadian citizen

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 30% to 40%
Stanford: 20%
Wharton: 30% to 40%
Chicago: 30% to 40%
MIT: 30% to 40%

Sandy’s Analysis: You have a lot going for you: Your 730 GMAT, STEM background, a 3.7 GPA from a Canadian university known for its engineering program, and your employment at a major tech firm in Silicon Valley.

I think the issue here is you say you will matriculate at business school next year with two years of full-time work experience. Out of a class of approximately 930 people at Harvard, only 5% of the enrolled MBA students have two or fewer years of work experience. In fact, HBS has actually been increasing the median and average years of work experience in recent years. I think there are a lot of people who apply with two years of work experience but few people get in. I imagine your internships were part of a coop program because you have so many of them on your resume.

Still, you are a totally strong candidate. If you applied next year or fourth year, you would be in the sweet spot and give the business schools a longer record to look at. The question is, can you get in now in the second year? A lot depends on how good your recommendations will be—and you are getting people to write recs for you who have only known you for a year and a bit.

So the question is, can you overcome the two years of work experience? At HBS, your chances are 30% to 40% because you have a real positive story. At Stanford, it would be less because it’s harder and there is no super wow factor here for Stanford which tends to run a little younger than Harvard. Wharton might buy the GMAT or might just like your overall profile.

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/10/24/handicapping-elite-mba-odds-4/

 

 

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