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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201610)(22-3)  

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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201610)(22-3)

 

 

BY: JOHN A. BYRNE ON OCTOBER 01, 2016

 

 

Ms. Teacher To Government

 

  • 158Q, 159V GRE (Plan to retake)
  • 3.5 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree from an Ivy-like university (think Duke)
  • Work experience includes two years in Teach for America, in school leadership roles and having won teaching awards; one year in a
    selective public policy fellowship, working in a city’s public housing agency on its financial sustainability plan; and two-plus years in the chief operating office of a large school district, winning a promotion after first year to a management position where the focus is on strategic advisement
  • Extracurricular involvement on the junior board of a neighborhood youth development organization; volunteer in neighborhood group voting on local policies
  • “Why an MBA?: I have worked in environments where it’s tough to break the status quo and make measurable impact. In order to lead in these settings one must be able to come up with creative solutions, make decisions utilizing difficult to gather data, build relationships with various stakeholders, and for lack of better phrasing, bring private sector skills. I want to develop my skills in quantitative analysis, build my confidence as a manager, and expose myself to new ways of management”
  • Goal: To move into public sector consulting with a long-term objective of going into state/federal government to run a program either in education or housing
  • Long-term pipe dream: To run for some sort of local office
  • “I originally thought about an MPA but since I have ~3 years working in government I want a degree that will expose me to new ways of thinking and courses that can add other skills to my tool belt”
  • 26-year-old white female

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 20% to 30%
HBS/Kennedy: 20%
Kennedy School: 40% to 50%
Yale: 40% to 50%
Northwestern: 40% to 50%
Michigan: 50%+
Columbia: 40%
NYU: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: Grrr. As you sense, this is a real strong Kennedy School MPA application, and given the choice between getting an MPA from the Kennedy School or an MBA from Michigan or NYU, I would go to Harvard unless your real dream is to flip into investment banking and make millions, or any variant of that.

Lots of K school kids also wind up at McKinsey, Bain or BCG so that is something else to think about. Your ‘problem’ is not your GPA. It’s that your resume does not clearly lead to business school, and no amount of your yelling in the application is going to change an adcom’s mind.

They may admit you anyway because they like you and with a better GRE score, you might have OK stats for them. I’m not seeing this as an HBS admit, although I could be wrong. They take one to four applicants a year with similar TFA + one and two more experiences. Those candidates, however, are often golden children with rock solid GPA/GMAT scores, TFA and maybe one more job as the right hand person to the Secretary of HEW or some other prestige player in the government. On the other hand, you are certainly in the trenches, and they may respect that.

I believe (someone confirm) that you can apply to dual HBS-HKS program and get admitted to HKS and dinged at HBS. So, you should do that. If dinged at HBS, think real hard about HKS. I’m a huge believer in branding (shocking, I know). Going to Harvard in any legitimate capacity is life changing, even the flipping Education School and HKS is a wonderful license to hustle, as I have noted in the past.

And there is the X factor of going to the Kennedy School. The chances of meeting new, important, life-changing people is way higher in the HKS eco-system, although this is hard to put a number on, and a good amount of that happening depends on what kind of person you are and what your interests are.

You may get into the other MBA programs you note, lots to like here. An elevated GRE score would make life easier for everyone. Do a less screamy and more substantive and quiet job about why you want the MBA, allude to education and other government figures with MBAs and say they are role models.

Real life outcomes are rarely what people imagine they will be entering B-school.

Just saying.

 

Mr. Blackhawk Pilot

 

  • 690/710 GMAT (recent practice tests)
    3.75 GPA
    Undergraduate degree in business management, with an emphasis in finance, from Brigham Young University
    Work experience as a Company Commander of 88 soldiers and more than $50 million of equipment (and will deploy soon); Blackhawk pilot and captain in the U.S. Army, with one earlier combat deployment to Afghanistan as a flight platoon leader
    Extracurricular involvement in church service; Boy Scouts scoutmaster and cubmaster; compete in triathlons; served for two years in Brazil as LDS Missionary (speak Portuguese fluently)
    Goal: Interested in a lot of things, but perhaps consulting or finance
    30-years-old male, married with three young children (will enter B-School at 32 based on active duty commitment after flight school)

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 20% to 30%
MIT: 30%
Wharton: 30%
Northwestern: 30% to 40%
Duke: 40%
Texas: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: Your age is not a problem. There are 32-year olds at Harvard Business School and in many other elite MBA programs. The classic explanation for older kids (though you are hardly a kid) is pilots, docs and other military. Schools realize that being a pilot requires extra years in service because of the intense training and certification involved. I don’t have stats, but man, if the ‘average’ age at HBS is 27, that means there are lots of peeps beyond that, since my guess is there are not many kids younger than 23. So to get to an average of 27 means there is plenty of room for you.

Moving right along, as noted many times, B-schools have a hard time judging the ‘quality’ of military careers, but the two things they do understand is pilot and combat. You got both. Your stats are solid and your other miscellaneous things are perky, too.

Yup, a better GMAT would not hurt, but this is a solid story. I think you got a real shot at HBS, and other places go for this with serviceable execution of your applications. Say you want to be a consultant. That is a clear goal that will endear you to every admissions officier because they know there are plenty of those jobs on campus. You cannot go wrong with that and McKinsey, Bain and BCG loves guys like you.

 

Mr. University

 

  • 750 GMAT (47Q/48V)
  • 3.4 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in psychology from a top 40 liberal arts college
  • Work experience includes one and one-half years as a business analyst at a large public university, working in operations, inventory management and budget planning; gained promotion to that job after nine months in a lower position at the university; a year in custoemr service at a bank
  • “I graduated peak-recession, stitched together several part-time, take-anything-I-can-get jobs and volunteer positions for two years”
  • Goal: To transition into Big Three consulting or similar, with long-term objective of running his own strategy/operations consulting practice working for state/local governments and nonprofits
  • “I have no name-brand corporate experience and I’m also afraid that the first two to three years of my work experience will be looked upon unfavorably. I have also attended a few pre-MBA networking events and got a couple of “hmm, interesting choices…” from alumni who asked which schools I am applying to (what’s so “interesting” about my choices!?)”
  • 27-year-old white male from rural working class background

    Odds of Success:

    Dartmouth: 20% to 30%
    Cornell: 30% to 40%
    Duke: 30%
    Virginia: 30% to 40%
    Michigan: 30% to 40%

    Sandy’s Analysis: You could become case 2387 on this board in the file called: SAVED BY THE GMATs. But in your case, execution of basics really counts. You need to explain both [in order of importance]:

    1. What you do at the state university you work for. Explain the size of the operation, the budget, the number of employees, and how you interact with the school’s leadership and what exactly your duties are. A state university is not a typical feeder organization for applicants to your target schools but given size and scope of the university and your job it could be. My guess is, the biggest thing against State U as a feeder is that it is not selective, and typical folks who work there in admin are slap-happy locals or trailing spouses (often the same person after a while, especially after prime spouse marries a grad student and both move away leaving Spouse #1 as the terror of the comptroller’s office).

    Well, you need to show that ain’t you.

    2. You need to explain in some more than average way how your rural upbringing and yadda yadda impacted your early academic performance and how the recession your impacted job choices.

    As often noted here, adcoms will sometimes blink once but not twice. That means adcoms will not blink at both your low-ish GPA and outlier work history.

    But that 750 GMAT may buy you a second blink, just make sure you make it easy for them. The response you are getting at alumni forums is, as you seem to know, code for ‘WHAAAA?’

    You need to learn how to preempt that by saying, “I’ve had some jumps, but I’m in a great place now doing strategic planning at State U. . . .”

    More importantly, make that case in your application, using official app talk. Your target schools are a little open to likable guys with OK but not super backgrounds. You need to present that way.

 

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/10/01/handicapping-elite-mba-odds-3/ 

 

 

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