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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201607)(21-1)  

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留学参考:Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds (201607)(21-1)

 

 

by: John A. Byrne & Sandy Kreisberg  on July 22, 2016

 

 

She’s a 27-year-old woman who plans to apply in round one this fall and admits to being terrified about her chances as a nontraditional applicant from the nonprofit sector. With a 3.55 GPA from a top-two liberal arts college and a strong GRE score, she hopes to get her MBA to return to the nonprofit space and gain a higher-level position where she can be “impactful, innovative, and make a difference.”

He’s a 25-year-old Latino male who currently works as a project manager for a telemedicine company. With a 690 GMAT and a 3.2 GPA from a Southern Ivy, this young professional is hoping to get into a business school to land a job in corporate strategy at McKinsey, Bain, or BCG.

After being turned down for Harvard Business School’s 2+2 program, this 22-year-old female engineer landed a job in software product development at a top-five global tech company. She is both right brained and left brained. Besides graduating in the top 10% of her class, she has performed at several dance shows, was the lead singer in a band during college, and loves trekking in the Himalayas, rafting, and painting. She wants to use an MBA to transition into a product management role at a top tech company.

 

What these three MBA candidates and more share in common is the desire to get through the door of a highly selective MBA program at one of the world’s very best business schools. Do they have a chance?

Sanford “Sandy” Kreisberg, founder of MBA admissions consulting firm HBSGuru.com, is back to analyze these and a few other profiles of actual MBA applicants who have shared their vital statistics, work backgrounds, and career goals with Poets&Quants. Now that the 2015-2016 admissions season is all but over and Sandy has completed dozens of mock interviews with candidates, Sandy will be appearing more regularly.

As usual, Kreisberg handicaps each potential applicant’s odds of getting into a top-ranked business school. If you include your own stats and characteristics in the comments, we’ll pick a few more and have Kreisberg assess your chances in a follow-up feature to be published shortly. (Please add your age and be clear on the sequence of your jobs in relaying work experience. Make sure you let us know your current job.)

 

Ms. NonProfit

  • 165Q, 168V GRE
  • 3.55 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree cum laude from a top-two liberal arts college
  • Work experience includes four years in the nonprofit sector, starting in direct public service and now as a manager at a national nonprofit organization; have worked with at-risk, high-need populations (minorities, low income, chronic disease, homeless); received a promotion several months into my first job; received a promotion and raise and bonus a year into my second job (where I currently am)
  • Extracurricular involvement throughout college and after, founding college organizations and chairing them, such as a women’s group, responsible investing club, and film collective; recently appointed to serve on a board in her city, serve on a governing committee of another nonprofit, and selected from a national pool to critique scientific research proposals to provide the patient perspective (advocate on their behalf) to help decide how millions of dollars of public funding should be spent on funding research
  • Why An MBA?: “I believe that nonprofits should be hubs of innovation, with the best and brightest working to make the world a better place. I can help to bring innovation to the nonprofit sector and increase its impact.”
  • “No quant on my undergrad transcript, so I took a statistics course and received an A at a local college and am up for taking another quant course or two.”
  • Short-Term Goal: To return to the nonprofit sector and attain a higher-level position to be “impactful, innovative, and make a difference.”
  • Long-Term Goal: To start her own nonprofit organization or benefit corporation
  • “I am planning to apply in Round 1 this fall and am a bit terrified about my chances as I am a nontraditional applicant from the nonprofit sector.”
  • 27-year-old white U.S. woman

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 30% to 40%
Wharton: 40%
Columbia: 40%
MIT: 40%
Yale: 40% to 50%
NYU: 50%+
Duke: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: You have put together a highly impressive and very consistent package, with a track record in nonprofits (see video above). A lot of your outcomes at elite business schools will turn on the reputation of the nonprofit that currently employs you. There is a totem pole of nonprofits, beginning with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and going down to I don’t know what. The higher up your nonprofit organization is, the more your odds of admission increase.

During college, you worked in other nonprofits, so you have that clear, consistent history and you have the lingo. You write: “I believe that nonprofits should be hubs of innovation with the best and brightest working to make the world a better place. I can help to bring innovation to the nonprofit sector and increase its impact.”

You’ve got the rap. You went to a classy school. You have the equivalent of a 730 GMAT and a 3.5 GPA. If you work for a classy nonprofit, and you have the right attitude, you should be in very good shape. Nonprofit, by the way, is not nontraditional. It’s just a different doorway into a business school today.

It’s also impressive that you recognized having no quant work during your undergraduate years and took a stats course in person and you got an A. Schools will recognize that you are the kind of person who can sit still, absorb what they offer, digest it, and reposition it.

U.S. News still calls Yale No. 1 for nonprofit management, but I think they are a little behind the curve on that because they are pivoting toward a more traditional program. But you are real solid.

From an adcom point of view, you are a very attractive candidate. Your chances are really good at all the schools you’ve targeted. Good luck!

 

 

Ms. Software Engineer

  • 326 GRE (168Q, 158V, 4AW)
  • 3.5 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in computer engineering from a Top 20 Indian college in top 10% of class
  • Work experience includes 18 months as an applications engineer in Cloud-based software product development at a Top 5 Tech Company (Think Oracle, Microsoft, IBM); only female engineer working on this product; also one of first eight employees of a tech startup during college that won two international awards and received national media coverage
  • Internships include working as a market analyst in a cyber-security firm; worked as a research intern with the government of India on a project for nuclear power generation
  • Extracurricular involvement in a pro bono consulting project for an educational initiative to help underprivileged high school students; student class representative; volunteer for several initiatives at work, including leadership of a green initiative; member of college rowing team; performed at several dance shows, was lead singer in a band during college and part of college music team; loves trekking in the Himalayas, rafting, adventure sports, and painting
  • Short-Term Goal: To transition into a product management role at a top tech company
  • Long-Term Goal: To transition into a VP role at a Silicon Valley startup
  • “Grew up in two countries. Speak five languages fluently”
  • 22-year old Asian-American female

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 30% to 40%
Stanford: 20% to 25%
MIT: 40%
Berkeley: 40%
UCLA: 50%
USC: 50%
Brigham Young: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: I think this is a silver-plated, not gold-plated, resume and application. At 22, you are on the young side as an applicant. For most of these schools that is either young or the young side of normal. Your undergraduate education wasn’t at one of the IITs in India. Your GRE score on the quant side is almost perfect, 168 out of 170, but on the low side on verbal. It all translates into a lopsided 710 GMAT. That is another silver, but not gold, feature.

There is no issue with you. You work in what appears to be a major American company. As the only female engineer on the team, that checks the box and is a gold job with a big tech company. And you have some solid internships. So you’ve worked in a startup and for the government of India. You have worked in a lot of different environments.

Your extras are impressive, too. You are a regular Josephine, a well-rounded, balanced, smart person.
Your short-term goal is a plus, but your long-term goal makes me think you need some Amy Cuddy advice. Amy is a Harvard Business School professor with one of the most viewed TED talks of all time. Her message is simple: Stand up straight or adopt power poses. That’s what you need to do. You don’t say “I want to transition into a VP role.” You say you want to be a leader of an innovative, growing tech company. Saying you want to be a VP signals that you are not really cut out for the top job.

I don’t think you are going to get into Stanford because you lack the X factor. Stanford admits women engineers who have two things you don’t have: an engineering degree from one of the IITs, and volunteer work that demonstrates that you have helped people beyond yourself, rather than being on your college rowing team. I don’t mean to be dismissive, but you just have to know that about Stanford. That’s the way they cut the bacon. Your odds might go up if there is a shortage of female, Desi engineers in the cohort.

At Harvard, this is a situation where your Harvard essay could actually make a difference. What you have to do is just sound really likable. You have got to say, “I want to tell you some things about me and what they mean.” And you have to do it in a way that doesn’t brag about anything you’ve done. You have to cover what it felt like being a lead singer in a music group, what you felt like as a volunteer, how you negotiate being the only woman engineer, and what you learned from working in the government of India. If you can give a likable, shrewd, self-knowing, non-bragging, quick account of those experiences, someone in admissions might put it down and say, “Wow. this woman has done a lot and she seems to get along and value everything and every place.” That could push you into Harvard.

 

Mr. IT Health

  • 690 GMAT (43Q, 41V)
  • 3.2 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in sociology and public health from a Southern Ivy (think Vanderbilt, Duke)
  • Work experience includes one and one-half years as a business analyst at a major health IT company, leading projects for several department heads and executive leadership; was marketing analyst at a healthcare marketing firm, currently a project manager for a two-year-old telemedicine company leading marketing and process improvement initiatives; also spent a summer in AmeriCorps Vista in food stamp outreach
  • Extracurricular involvement as president of the Sociology Majors & Minors Association in college; developed and implemented mental health training program for student-run free clinic while in school; launched a street psychiatry program at Vanderbilt Medical Center with a med school professor and consult psychiatrist that led to a $300,000 investment from the medical center and creation of a Homeless Health Services division; founding mentor at accelerator for high school students to create social enterprises
  • Goal: Transition into corporate strategy at McKinsey, Bain, or BCG or a major healthcare company
  • 25-year-old Latino male

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 10% to 20%
Stanford: 10% to 15%
Duke: 40% to 50%
Vanderbilt: 50%+
Rotman: 50%+

Sandy’s Analysis: You are competing in the URM bucket. Your 3.2 GPA is a real stumbling block to you at a Harvard or Stanford. The 690 GMAT is okay, but you should retake the 690 because it might help your Hail Mary pass at Harvard and Stanford. And if you want to be a consultant at McKinsey, Bain, or BCG, your GMAT score counts at those places. Unfortunately, this is a situation where the difference between a 690 and a 720 is real.

To summarize your work experience, you’ve had three jobs. The good news is they are all kind of healthcare-related. The bad news, maybe, is that these companies sound a little flakey, even though the health IT company was major. That would help. A marketing analyst at a healthcare marketing firm sounds like they are handing out fliers in parking lots. I apologize if that is not the case. And you are currently a project manager at a telemedicine startup. Does it have VC funding? How many people work there? Is it something your sister is doing out of her bedroom or a serious company with 100 or more employees? All that is important when you work for a startup.

Still, all this does add up, and so do your extracurriculars. You are a likable, activist guy with an interest in mental health. I think you might be able to get a job at M/B/B, if you go to a business where those companies hire people. And I think you could use the MBA to land a job with a major healthcare company.

With your 3.2 GPA, you probably aren’t getting into Harvard or Stanford, unless you can explain it away, or unless you can get a 790 GMAT, or unless your medical school professor can pull a string. You’re correct to avoid the No Mercy schools like Wharton and Columbia. They are going to be less impressed by your good deeds and will just focus on the 3.2 and the 690.

The places that could be interested in you could be Tuck, if you got there and formed a bond with them, and Kellogg because of the marketing. Kellogg is where you belong. God is pushing you toward Kellogg. Your dreams can come true there and you are a natural fit. You identified Duke but you should also consider Darden. Vandy is a good choice and can lead to a job at a major healthcare company. And you can make a case for going to Vandy because you have a lot of contacts there. Rotman strikes me as crazy because it’s in Canada and they have a different healthcare system.

My tough love: Retake the GMAT. Take it two, three, four, or a thousand times. It has become that much of a bogeyman. Nobody cares how many times you take it.

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/07/22/handicapping-elite-mba-odds/ 

 

 

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