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留学参考:Why Great Applicants Are Often Rejected (PART3)  

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留学参考:Why Great Applicants Are Often Rejected (PART3)

 

 

The 2016 Ding Report: Why Great Applicants Are Often Rejected
 

BY: JOHN A. BYRNE ON APRIL 20, 2016

 

 

Mr. College Senior

 

  • 740 GMAT
  • 3.6 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in engineering from a top public (UVA/Berkeley/Michigan)
  • College senior who interned at a major consulting firm M/B/B who will return full-time
  • Extracurricular invovement shows solid leadership experience
  • “Recently interviewed with HBS 2+2 in Round 2, but was ultimately denied. Their feedback was mostly positive, the only mention was a) I seemed a little nervous and b) the pool I was coming from was pretty competitive for 2+2”

Dings:

Harvard 2+2-Denied after interview
Stanford GSB Deferred-Denied without interview

Sandy’s Analysis: “Seemed a bit nervous” is code for screwing the interview, something that is easy to do at HBS, and a couple of hiccups can make a lifetime of accomplishments go out the window. They have this Platonic Ideal: Would this kid be able to feel comfy in a case method environment.

Two types of people fail the test:

Actual nervous people like you, who probably would do just fine after five minutes. But hey, they gotta ding x number of people, so nervousness is as good a reason as any other;

2. Quite well-spoken people who appear “scripted,” another one of their favorite words, which can mean, 1. scripted (for real, e.g. a bit robotic and cliched), 2. annoying as judged by their inner tastes and culture, but they don’t want to (or cannot because they are not articlulate enough, but they know what they don’t like!) say why.

The rest of your story was in the pack, with engineering background a small plus, but nothing super duper to get you into Stanford. This is a classic case of solid (so HBS is OK) but no X factor (so Stanford would be real hard).

What kind of X factors is Stanford looking for?

Leadership roles in helping lepers, other disadvantaged groups, etc. Impact beyond yourself, winning Nobel Junior Prize, being FOD (Friend of Derrick, or working for any company or organization on Stanford’s super secret insider list, viz. Apple). Change genders (well, depends a bit on birth gender, but mostly a positive.)

As I am sure they told you, and is true, lots of 2+2 dings get admitted three to five years later as regular applicants and you seem Teed up for that.

As for advice on the best route for the next three to five years to get admitted down the road? Stay healthy, do not get arrested, stay employed, cultivate recs, get promoted, work for McKinsey for two years and then get your next job at a feeder PE firm or Apple. Do not leave any blue chip job to become an entrepreneur of any kind. That is actual risk taking and shows leadership, innovation, impact and guts—all of which adcoms do not value, and in fact, are suspicious of and will punish you for.

 

Mr. MD

 

  • 720 GMAT
  • 86/100 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree from an Israeli University
  • Graduating with an medical degree from an Israeli University in four months
  • Work experience includes four years in an elite intelligence unit in the Israeli Defense Forces, managing teams of 30 analysts; promoted to HQ to establish new desk from scratch. Won several awards; also worked one year during medical school as a researcher for a digital health startup
  • Extracurricular involvement creating a cancer therapeutics venture during med school; solid volunteering background, establishing a project to promote healthcare in rural areas in Israel
  • Goal: To pursue a career in biotech entrepreneurship
  • “Essays were focused on my mission to save lives, shaped in part by my father’s death and the strong experience of saving lives during military service and medical school”
  • 30-year-old male from Israel

Dings:

Harvard-Denied without interview
Stanford-Denied without interview
MIT Sloan-Denied without interview

Sandy’s Analysis: Well, I like you, but as noted time and time again, business schools DO NOT LIKE ENTREPRENEURS, despite what the schools say!!!! It’s just too real, too important, and too hard to judge. More work for mother, and there is not all that much they can teach you, although sure, schmoozing is a plus.

Is everyone clear about that now? You are one of many people with sorta the same story and disappointing results.
In your case, for a guy coming out of an MD program, you did not fit another pattern. HBS and Stanford (not sure about MIT) see the MBA-MD program as training basically future medical administrators, guys who run hospitals, goverment agencies, blah. blah.

I am also not clear about the timing–Most MBA-MD types in USA are part of a joint program, where they start business school before earning MD. I’m not sure if after year two of med school (I think), so you were not in that cohort, and technically you were not “joint degree” but a guy with MD now wanting to go to B school. That is a real unusual timetable for them (H and S admit, in rare cases, practicing docs especially ones interested in transitioning to e.g. hospital administration but that wasn’t you, either.)

 

Mr. Consultant

 

  • GRE 335 (Q170 – 98%) (V165 – 95%) (Essay 4.5 – 80%). GMAT equivalent: 780
  • 7.1/10 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in electrical engineerings from the National Institute of Technology in Kurukshera
  • Work experience includes five years in management consulting in the pharma industry for Fortune 500 companies; two years in the oil industry setting up fuel stations in remote Indian geographies
  • Extracurricular involvement leading many student clubs in college; an avid quizzer and flutist; volunteers at an NGO for underprivileged children.
  • Short-term goal: Healthcare consulting in the US.
  • Long-term goal: To lead a technology based healthcare startup in India
  • 29-year-old Indian male

Dings:

Virginia (Darden)- Denied without interview
Dartmouth (Tuck)-Denied without interview
MIT (Sloan)-Denied without interview
Duke (Fuqua)-Denied without interview
UCLA (Anderson)-Denied without interview
Northwestern (Kellogg)-Denied after interview
Michigan (Ross)-Waitlisted without interview, then denied
Texas (McCombs)-Waitlisted after interview

Sandy’s Analysis: Those results are surprising. I don’t think your age per se is the problem, as much as your five years of consulting experience.

1. That is long time to be a consultant
2. A lot of business school outcomes depend on what they think of the company you work for.

All that said, outcomes are surprising.

I’m not sure if the GMAT vs. GRE issue was super important, but as noted, if you had an actual 780 GMAT, schools really go for that as a plus.

My only macro comment is that you may have come off as a Consulting Burn Out, looking for something to save your life, not a story B-schools are partial to, or some variant of that. Somone who has seven years of work experience and five years in consulting at one firm is a very atypical B-school applicant. Wish I could dope this out some more, but that seems to be it.

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/04/20/2016-ding-report-great-applicants-get-rejected/ 

 

 

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