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留学参考:Why Great Applicants Are Often Rejected (PART2)  

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留学参考:Why Great Applicants Are Often Rejected (PART2)

 

 

The 2016 Ding Report: Why Great Applicants Are Often Rejected
 

BY: JOHN A. BYRNE ON APRIL 20, 2016

 

 

Mr. Third Time HBS

 

  • 1500 GRE (770Q/730V)
  • Undergraduate degree in medicine from a Nigerian University
  • Master’s degree in public health from H/Y/P
    work experience includes a one year medical internship, one year in national service, 1.5 years at a healthcare non-profit, and 1.5 years in consulting at M/B/B; currently at a healthcare startup
  • Goal: To start a health insurance company in Nigeria for the mass market
  • “Interview: I think it was only borderline. I was startled by the indirect questioning way, The first questions was whether I was still at MBB, and I replied honestly that I was in transition to a startup and working to transfer my work visa. There were questions about why one of my interviewer had said he was not exposed to my quant skills (the project had no quant at all), questions about what I read in the NY Times if healthcare did not exist. etc.”
  • “Do you think I should give it one more shot or just suck it up and attend a top 10ish MBA that I was admitted to (think NYU/Yale/Tuck)?”
  • 31-year-old Nigerian maleDings:Harvard-Place on waitlist for one month after interview, then denied for the third year in a rowSandy’s Analysis: Ouch! I’d say your interview is what did it, even though you were placed on the waitlist.

    Do not WRITE to adcom. Call them on those days they set aside for giving feedback to kids who were dinged after the interview.

    But I have to tell you that this sounds like this was a downward spiral from the start. I don’t think a 4th application usually works at HBS, and you are not getting younger, although the HBS eco-system could help you make contacts, etc. That is why I would try to get real feedback. Maybe someone could give you the real lowdown about what happened.

    Ahem, moving out of M/B/B for Healthcare start-up might have struck them as odd, given that you would be leaving that in a year or two for business school.

    As noted, the fourth time is rarely the charm at HBS, and you are not getting younger. Applying yet another time might depend on how your healthcare start-up is going, but those other places you got in to seem fine and your dreams can come true there.

 

Mr. Consultant With Red Flags

 

  • 770 GMAT (Q51/V43)
  • 3.65 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in electrical engineering from a Top 3 engineering school
  • Work experience includes nine months as a social investment intermediary as a consultant to SMEs; five months building a digital social enterprise that would teach entrepreneurship in post-conflict regions; one year at a Financial Times 250 company in a strategy role; one year in strategy consulting (Booz/LEK/Strategy&/Oliver Wyman) and recently promoted to senior associate
  • Extracurricular involvement as a board trustee leading an impact assessment group in Uganda for a U.K.-based nonprofit; growth mentor for a female victim of trafficking; started a web design and graphic business at age 14 and ran it for five years; president of a university cultural society
  • “Red flags: Was technically unemployed during five months and did take out unemployment benefits to survive having lost funding; Inverse bell-curve trend in transcript (GPA progression through years: 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, 3.9; second year family issues, third year – intensified family issues + too many extra curricular commitments)”
  • Short-term goal: To transition in to product management, tech strategy or impact investment
  • Long-term goal: To own a venture capital firm focused on social tech and clean tech in Asia, Africa or Latin America
  • 25-year-old British male

Dings:

Harvard—Denied without interview
Wharton—Denied without intervew

Sandy’s Analysis: Given your odd facts, whatever they are, and your allusive and DEEPLY annoying bragging, misleading and round-about resume, I would try to simplify your work history until your current job at (Booz/LEK/Strategy&/OW) and just present your good grades, great GMAT and some neutral account of your pre-Booz past with very conservative goals.

For instance, saying you’d like to be a leader at one of those consulting firms, doing something you have already done. Ahem, instead of the MEGA, high minded, confused BS you posted:
“Would use MBA to transition into product management, tech strategy, strategy consulting or impact investment. Long term dream, own venture capital firm focused on social tech and clean tech in Asia, Africa, LatAm – realised I like seeding and helping entrepreneurs more than being an entrepreneur myself.”

You got a lot to like, not sure what happened at W and HBS, but if you sounded as coy, annoying, “at your throat and on your knees” as in your posts and re-creations, well, I’m not shocked. Get a clear, straight story about consulting and say that is what you want to do.

As noted here and elsewhere, a million times, just make your application goals reasonable and likely based on your past work history.

You do not get extra points for being daring, large, aspiring, and greedy in your goal statement. All most schools want to see is some clear eyed sense of how the world works and confirmation, in your case, that you are NOT one of those brash, smart, wanna-be-rich Desis, yearning to be free, but rather a brash, smart wanna-be-rich Desi who knows how to present himself as a humble, boring consultant.

 

Ms. Oil & Gas

 

  • 730 GMAT
  • 3.8 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree from a Top 20 college in India
  • Work experience includes three years i operation and maintenance for an oil and gas company that is among the Top 5 in India and two years in strategic planning
  • Short-term goal: To transition into management consulting
  • Long-term goal: To lead a petrochemicals/chemical practice of an M/B/B firm worldwide
  • “Essay revolved around being first female shop floor engineer”
  • “My Booth interviewer was late for the interview and I found him pretty biased against my company. Interview lasted around 20 mins.
    My Yale interview was pretty good and the interviewer went to the extent of saying that they were looking for people like me.”
  • 28-year-old female from India

Dings:

Yale—Denied after interview
Chicago—Denied after interview

Sandy’s Analysis: Phew, you got me. That is a strong profile and one you executed perfectly in terms of goals.

My guess is, and it pains me to say this, they just used your “non-Gold” schooling and company (both were silver in their minds, or bronze) to make an easy call against you versus similar people with better schooling (e.g. IIT and etc) as well as more well known global companies.

What exactly was the Booth interviewers bias against your company? Was that some personal issue interviewer had, or does company have a reputation? A 20 minute interview? Is that actual time, or did it just “seem” that cursory and dismissive?

Dunno, if behavior of interviewer was really out of bounds. That is something the school might be interested in knowing. Although, sure, why bother, your job is just to get in.

Let the school take care of its dirty laundry and slipshod interviewer selection.

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2016/04/20/2016-ding-report-great-applicants-get-rejected/ 

 

 

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