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DIY留学选校:The Best & Worst Things MBAs Say About Their Schools  

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DIY留学选校:The Best & Worst Things MBAs Say About Their Schools

 


by John A. ByrnePoets & QuantsAuthor on November 17, 2014

 

 

If you had the chance to visit a business school campus and ask current MBA students what the experience is really like what would they tell you?

Pretty much what you are about to read. These comments were gathered off the most recent surveys of MBAs in the Class of 2014 by Bloomberg Businessweek for its latest ranking of the best full-time MBA programs. Each questionnaire has an open area for students to make whatever additional comments they please. Businessweek editors select ten comments from students in each of the school’s latest graduating classes and publishes them in the school profile section. It’s a great resource for applicants and can be found here.

MBA students always have both good and bad things to say about their MBA experiences. But what most strikes you when you read through all the comments is how overwhelmingly positive they are. Few students at top MBA programs have serious reservations about their programs. They are a highly satisfied lot, a fact consistently reaffirmed by surveys of students by the Graduate Management Admission Council.

THE MOST POSITIVE COMMENTS CENTER AROUND THE QUALITY OF THE CLASSMATES

What tends to get the most praise? Students often marvel at the quality and diversity of their classmates and how much they learn from them. Classmates are typically described as bright, thoughtful, hard working and fun. At one school after another, the most common traits are how collaborative and supportive fellow students are with both the classroom work and the job search. Many graduating MBAs reflect on what a truly transformative experience their graduate education was for them.

Sure, there are gripes. But they tend to be about career placement, particularly in years when the economy is in recession. Given the robust recovery in the MBA job market, with salaries and job offers near record highs, you see far fewer complaints about career management centers this year. Instead, the reservations have shifted somewhat, depending on the school. They can range from complaints about the quality of the teaching in an MBA program to the lack of real community at a school.

At Harvard Business School, there were some complaints about the size of the place and how the inclusiveness of the first year broke down in the second. At Stanford, there were some issues with the overwhelming emphasis in the culture on entrepreneurship. And at Chicago Booth, one MBA had negative things to say about the “commuting culture” of the school. “The distance between the school and where the majority of students live means that socialization is often deeply focused on ‘frosty beverages’ and academic life is not highly valued outside the walls of the Harper Center,” the graduate told Businessweek.

More often than not, the complaints are rarely serious deficiencies but rather things a few MBAs would try to change if they could to make their programs better.

Here’s a sample of some of the more insightful observations by the Class of 2014.

Harvard Business School across the Charles River

Harvard Business School across the Charles River

Harvard Business School

thumbs up

 

“HBS offers incredible academics, brand, networking, facilities and the like. That is unquestionable. However, the social experience at HBS is unparalleled. It is so intense and fast-paced that it fast forwards and accelerates your personal development by a few years. Coming out of HBS, I am more centered, balanced, focused, tolerant, thoughtful, ethical, and articulate. I also met some of my best friends here, had some of the greatest memories with them and traveled the world. Thank you HBS.”

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“The downside to the case method is that HBS is terrible at teaching quantitative skills. I had to go to the Khan Academy and Wikipedia to even begin to understand what was going on.”

“There are so many people, it’s hard to build a tight-knit community, and the general all-inclusiveness of first year somewhat disintegrated in the second year.”

 

Stanford Graduate School of Business

Stanford Graduate School of Business

Stanford Graduate School of Business

up

 

“What I like: The people are high caliber but also genuinely nice, very open and accepting, the size of the class, the closeness (spiritually and physically) to Silicon Valley and the tech industry, and the leadership learning opportunities. Other things that stood out are the GSB facilities and the opportunities within the university–outside the business school.”

down

 

“There is too much focus on starting your own company and not enough on a professional job search.”

“There is an overwhelming emphasis on entrepreneurial career tracks, to the point of over 50% of the class starting companies by the end of the second year.”

University of Chicago Booth School of Business

up

 

“Booth has allowed me to set my path and focus on the areas I wanted to work on. For me, these included my leadership skills and my ability to manage complex problems. Booth provided the opportunities for me to work on these, through experiential courses like LEAD, and my classmates have been incredibly supportive and great examples to help me move forward.”

down

 

“Booth is a commuter school. The distance between the school and where the majority of students live means that socialization is often deeply focused on “frosty beverages” and academic life is not highly valued outside the walls of the Harper Center.”

“There’s still a bit too much of a focus on the “traditional” MBA areas of banking and consulting. I would love to see Booth continue to push into other areas like marketing and tech.”

 

The Wharton School

The Wharton School

University of Pennsylvania Wharton School

up

“Wharton has a reputation of being a “finance” heavy program. Although quantitative and data driven analysis is key component to the program, being a finance school is somewhat of a misnomer. My favorite part of the program is learning from an incredibly rich student body, that come from multiple walks of life, including elementary school teaching, aircraft sales, entrepreneurship and professional sports. The size and scale of Wharton provides for an incredibly diverse student body.”

down

 

“There is such an emphasis on academic rigor that the workload sometimes interferes with career/networking searches.”

“Even though Wharton has one of the highest percentages of international students among U.S. MBA programs, I still think the international student community is small compared to programs in other countries.”

 

Inside the new home of the Kellogg School of Management

Inside the new home of the Kellogg School of Management

Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management

up

 

“The school offers deep and broad opportunities for experiential learning with real projects that are enhanced by the talent and commitment of my classmates. I am a stronger problem solver, more insightful analyst, effective teammate, and a better prepared manager after complete Kellogg’s experiential courses.”

 

down“The facilities aren’t on par with an MBA program of this caliber. There isn’t a comfortable chair in the building. The food options at the Jacobs Center are terrible. Most of the classrooms are in the basement. Students are constantly being kicked out of the LSR (student lounge) for special events. Evanston has never been ideal, but the loss of The Keg has made off-campus social life in Evanston very challenging. Many students complain that they aren’t having as much fun as they anticipated.”

“There is an abundance of young, inexperienced professors who cannot bring real-life experiences of their own to the classroom to enhance discussions, bring examples to life andbring credibility to their teaching.”

Columbia Business School

up

“The close-knit, student-driven community sets CBS ahead of all MBA programs. We have an active, diverse and extremely tight community headed off year after year with the orientation period and reinforced by student clubs and programs like Chazen and Master Classes. Academically, the best thing about Columbia is the tight relationship between theory and practice. Both core and elective classes combine practical analytical tools with strategic and conceptual thinking. I sought this in an MBA program and I believe that CBS has the best mix of this theory and practice. Additionally, thanks to our N.Y. location there were incredible speakers in my classes and also organized through the school.”

down

 

“Unfortunately, the limited space. like anything in New York, can be an issue so we have to get creative with how we share resources.”

“The worst thing was the overwhelming amount of activities and the continuous blasts of e-mails with stuff to do. Every club and association, as well as the student government, had a ton of conferences, activities, event. It was overwhelming to have all of these activities and no time to attend.”

 

Tuck_Interior

Dartmouth College Tuck School of Business

up

 

“The community at Tuck is, in my opinion, the best part of the program. From the administration, to faculty and staff, to my classmates, and even the broader alumni network, Tuckies support each other ferociously. They go out of their way to proactively be helpful and create an atmosphere in which everyone succeeds.”

down“The lack of depth and rigor in the core courses. I felt that we were teaching to the lowest
common denominator and professors underestimated our talent and intelligence. Additionally, I felt the pace could have been faster and the courses felt watered down.”

“I wish the school had better diversity goals; specifically in admissions. Admissions seems to dismiss the importance of having an ethnically and racially diverse student body.”

 

Duke University's Fuqua School of Business

Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business

Duke University Fuqua School of Business

 

up“Fuqua students are just very friendly and down to earth. This makes it easy to spend two years and build strong bonds with classmates. You don’t feel like you have to spend lot of money and go on expensive outings to fit in with your classmates. There is very little flaunting of family wealth, etc. The good hearted nature also shows up in both classroom and recruiting, where people are not trying to kill each other, but help as much as possible.”

 

down

“I would have loved to have more attention and guidance when pursuing my internship.”

“Consulting is taking over more and more of the school, and homogeneity in future career goals is becoming an issue.”

INSEAD

 

up“This has been, hands down, the best experience of my life. While INSEAD advertises its international diversity, it is the diversity of professionals that has been equally, if not more, valuable. The admissions department also does a great job of bringing together people that, while diverse, enjoy being around other people. The students make this experience what it is. I have not heard students at other schools speak about their classmates the way I feel about mine here at INSEAD.”

 

down“Despite the advantages of a condensed program, 10 months is short and there is considerable restriction on which electives you are able to take given time constraints.”

“Career services program does not have sufficient bench strength to effectively support the number of students throughout the MBA. I would say at best we had an adequate Career Services team.”

Berkeley's Haas School of Business

Berkeley’s Haas School of Business

UC-Berkeley Haas School of Business

up

 

“The best thing about my MBA program is the strong sense of culture at Haas, which is driven by its four principles (confidence without attitude, students always, beyond yourself, question the status quo). Haas has done a great job at selecting a diverse group of classmates. As a result, Haas has a much more down-to-earth and genuine community than I expected from an MBA program. The program also ties these principles into the academic and career realms of the program to prepare us to be innovative leaders.”

 

“The facilities at my program can be difficult to deal with at times. We share space with other downprograms so it feels crowded and can be challenging to find meeting space. The new building should address these issues substantially.”

“Some firms like East Coast banks or CPG companies won’t recruit on-campus because they are afraid people will do internships with them and then try to find full-time positions on the West Coast.”

 

The Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan

The Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan

University of Michigan Ross School of Business

up

 

“The community at Ross — whether current students or alumni — have been the best thing about my MBA program. My peers helped me gained my confidence, and put a lot of time and effort to prepare me for my interviews. Almost all the alumni I’ve contacted so far responded to my e-mails, were candid about their work experiences and provided valuable information.”

down

 

“The location was not ideal. The winter was hard and the area feels like it caters to and is overrun with immature undergraduates.”

“There is a wide range of ability and experience in the students at Ross. At times I felt that certain students did not belong in the same program as I did; they did not add to the classroom experience.”

 

Cornell

Cornell University’s Johnson Graduate School of Management

up

 

“Johnson is a hugely collaborative community and my experiences here have been essential to my development as a leader and achieving both my dream internship and full-time position. The support here through faculty, students, alumni and the career management center is shockingly good.”

 

down“It would have been nice if we were encouraged a little more to leverage the academics of the entire university and the expertise of the student body, as opposed to spending so much time in our building.”

“The location can sometimes be a challenge when travel for interviews, conferences or case competitions is required. It’s great to be in this vibrant, unique college town, but there are times when it can also be challenging.”

University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business

up

 

The culture of trust within the university really allows for true collaboration and loyalty among classmates. I never felt like I couldn’t ask a classmate for help and I knew that encouragement was always there if I needed it. I believe this sets Darden graduates up for success when working with diverse groups of people.

 

downThe program lacks cultural diversity and strong entrepreneurial thinking. The program is strong at developing managers and executives who can manage well within the corporate world, but not enough effort is placed on developing business leaders and entrepreneurial thinkers. The lack of cultural diversity makes it more difficult for students to be able interact with the cultural differences which they will become the new paradigm of the corporate world.

The location is beautiful but semi-remote, making it challenging for some firms to recruit for internship or full time opportunities. The alumni network is strong and proactive, but firms unfamiliar with the program have stated that they do not recruit on campus because of the location.

 

Tepper

Carnegie Mellon University Tepper School of Business

up

 

“The best thing about Tepper has been the close network that we have with our alums. Over the past year I have had direct access to high level individuals through our Alumni Board of Directors. I also benefited in my summer internship at J&J by having strong network of alums who are already reaching out to me from my future employer PWC. Lastly, I had the direct opportunity to interview David Tepper!”

 

down“The worst thing that many people would note about the Tepper MBA program is its distance to other major cities to recruit. I actually did not find this to be a major problem though. You can find relatively cheap flights to major cities through the U.S.”

“Certain recruiters are hesitant to come to campus due to the small class size–more work, fewer recruits.”

 

UCLA's Anderson School is ranked 17th among the best business schools in the U.S. by Poets&Quants.

According to Princeton Review, UCLA’s Anderson School has the best campus environment of any business school in the world

UCLA Anderson School of Management

 

up

 

“The people are wonderful. The students are very focused and accomplished. The admissions committee takes great care to ensure only those who are naturally collaborative and team players get in. The faculty is committed to the learning process, well prepared and always available. The administration actively engages the student community, acts quickly on feedback and makes best efforts to create a sense of community.”

 

down“The academic program could be a little more flexible in terms of the core courses and their scheduling.”

“The worst thing is the lack of minorities at UCLA Anderson. However, the school has been working hard to improve this by becoming a member of the Consortium and making strategic new hires such as Diversity officer and adding a VP of Diversity/Inclusion position to the student board.”

Yale University School of Management

 

up

 

“Although there are many great things about the program, the best two things have been the collaborative culture, where students work together to get jobs, do school work and put together events. The other thing is the innovative curriculum, which teaches students to analyze problems through an integrated disciplinary lens.”

down

 

“It does not live up to its promise of being an MBA program for “leaders of business and society.” I expected better courses and more support for students going into non-profit or government careers, but instead I felt looked down on by the administration.”

 

Londonfullpix

London Business School

up

 

“The quality of the student body, location, diversity, academic rigor and most importantly the confidence it gave me. London Business School has completely transformed who I am.”

 

 

“The attitude of the staff and faculty (career services and professors) who cater mostly to investment bankers and downconsultants who really don’t need either the scholarship money or the “help” getting an internship and/or job. Career switching at London Business School is only for certain people. Tied for worst: everything revolves around alcohol.”

“LBS career services focuses too much on finance and consulting, less on other industry sectors. The school also needs better facilities, especially a new gym.”

 

 

 

以上内容摘自:

http://poetsandquants.com/2014/11/17/the-best-worst-things-mbas-say-about-their-schools/

 

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